I drank everywhere Mike. When I moved to ATL in '94, the bars were accessable, as suburbia is not SF, and the drunks I befriended could not call me on my TALL tales of debauchery in my City daze... Plus, you can not buy liquor over the counter in GA on Sunday, but you can drive to a bar, put away as much as you like, then drive home. It's a weird world ain't it? And I was a frequent flyer at the CW, Zeitgeist, and every pro drinking establishment on 16th St. in the '80's before they all got bought up and trendy... Jack's at 16th & Guerrero used to be Flo & Swedes, and my aunt was Flo, so there ya go...a bar rat in the Irish Catholic longshoreman working class family I am a part of. Hell, Alfie from the Chatterbox still owes me about 30+ free games on KISS pinball from all the times she threw me out at closing time...Harvy's Place was where I got primed...I'm coming out in July, and I attend meetings I like in SF, all the while reliving my childhood, walking down memory lane, never regretting my past nor shutting the door on it...like the half one at Toronado.